FORCES Project - Management Committee Minutes 04/12/00



The meeting was held at the IEE, London with the participation of:

Action points arising from meetings are identified as AP/meeting/action/owner. This meeting was number 5.

  1. Appointment of Secretary

    S. Reiff-Marganiec agreed to act as secretary for this meeting.

  2. Apologies for Absence

    G. Blair was was unable to attend due to a clash of commitments. M. Calder was unable to travel at this time.

  3. Approval of Agenda

    The agenda was approved.

  4. Approval of Minutes and Matters Arising

    The minutes of Meeting 4, 11/04/00, were approved (subject to correct labelling of action AP/4/1/EM as AP/4/1/KT) with no matters arising.

  5. Review of Outstanding Action Points

    AP/3/0/KT K. Turner will organise the production of an A4/A3 publicity poster (as appropriate). This was still outstanding, but was dropped as it was now of limited relevance.

    AP/4/0/EM E. Magill agreed to approach Ericsson UK to clarify their position. At least three email messages and an attempt at voice contact with C. Grealish have yielded no response. In future, H. Lockyer will be included in the project email list.

    AP/4/1/KT K. Turner will contact Scottish Enterprise (S. Boyle) with a view to gaining local support. Scottish Enterprise (COMMTECH) were very supportive of a Scottish event, and have offered to help with advertising, gaining an audience, sponsorship and premises.

    AP/4/6/All Project members should consider this further at the next project management committee meeting. The discussion of this is noted below.

  6. Participation of BT

    R. Kett has changed division. K. Turner has tried many times and several people to find a replacement representative from BT. It was decided to take no particular action, except to note the apologies of BT.

  7. Review of Colloquium

    There was weak attendance (55 last year, 35 this year), but with a good range and quality of talks. There were problems with the IEE administration (adding 3 month to the organising time), and the cost was multiplied by factor of 3 (e.g. lunch at £20 per person). J. Derrick proposed a vote of thanks to K. Turner.

    It was agreed to hold the next colloquium in Glasgow, with a venue of either the Teachers Building (IEE) or on Glasgow University premises. Provisional dates were agreed to be Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday 4th/5th/6th September 2001, or Tuesday/Wednesday 18th/19th September 2001. This is past the official end of the project (31st August 2001) but KT does not expect any problems with EPSRC.

    The organising committee was approved to be E. Magill (chair), G. Clark (or other Marconi member) and J. Derrick.

    AP/5/0/GC G. Clark to confirm the Marconi participant. Ongoing

    AP/5/1/MC M. Calder to organise the logistics in Glasgow. Ongoing

  8. Next Workshop

    A choice of three locations was put to the vote at the Workshop the following day: Stirling, Kent and Birmingham (with M. Ryan's agreement). Birmingham was approved as the venue, on Tuesday/Thursday 3rd/5th April 2001.

  9. Longer Term Funding

    AP/5/2/KT K. Turner will compose information about current budget and current claims and send this to paid project members. (Chairman's Afternote: now completed.) Current funding might be sufficient to prolong the project for 6 months.

    AP/5/3/KT K. Turner will enquire of EPSRC about continuation with current funds. Ongoing

    One option is re-application. The EPSRC meeting in Blackpool attended by K. Turner and J. Evans said that a re-application could be considered provided that there was something new.

    A second option is an industrially-funded network. It was noted that it is easier for companies to `buy into' more definite projects than just meetings.

    As a third option, E. Magill proposed a pool of PhD students to work on the synergy of software engineering and service creation. There was extensive discussion of this proposal, which was approved. It was decided that there would be five Universities as principal members (Birmingham, Glasgow, Kent, Lancaster, Stirling). Students would be assigned to a home University, but would spend time at other Universities and in Industry. At least three industrial partners would be required. G. Clark (and at the Workshop, D. Marples) expressed an interest in discussing this proposal further.

    AP/5/4/EM+GB E. Magill and G. Blair will elaborate this proposal further and distribute a draft proposal for discussion. (Chairman's Afternote: after discussion with E. Magill and G. Blair it was agreed that it was too late to recruit PhD students for next September. Consideration will be given to a four-year proposal, with the first year occupied by workshops as at present. This will also give time to gain industrial support.)

    AP/5/5/GC G. Clark will enquire about possible Marconi support.

  10. Next Meeting

    This will precede the next project Workshop.


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